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#1
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by sub rosa - Today at 12:10 PM
Yes.
Maybe a related but separate topic.

Going back to cooking ...
Success Soup Base: LALA Land. (Love, Admiration, Loyalty, Affinity).
 
#2
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by prime - Today at 11:15 AM
Quote from: sub rosa on Today at 10:39 AMAutonomous loyalty is all that's needed for the un-owned "thing" to not be abused by the masses. 

Autonomous loyalty requires pursuit of the transcendental first, so that autonomous loyalty can be understood in the first place. For most this takes time, well into their 30s.

QuoteLike a lot of men in his generation he had been a product of divorce and raised by a single mom. A combination of a lack of male influence and fear of instability had left him emotionally stunted, pliable and a bit of a people pleaser.

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-high-price-of-freedom
#3
idea / Re: Individualism
Last post by prime - Today at 11:12 AM
QuoteIn developed countries collectivism and individual liberty are generally treated as rivals: the more responsibility government assumes, the less room remains for citizens to fend for themselves. Sweden followed a different path. During the 20th century the state expanded not merely to soften inequality or insure people against hardship, but to reduce their reliance on other people—including their own families. A large impersonal state is seen as bolstering autonomy: when in need, Swedes feel it is better to be beholden to an impersonal bureaucracy than to a parent or some charity. Seen this way, a bigger state translates into more freedom, not less.

The upshot is what Henrik Berggren and Lars Tragardh, two historians, call "statist individualism". In their book "The Swedish Theory of Love", newly updated in English, they argue that Swedes have come to prize relationships entered into freely rather than maintained by material necessity. Public child care helps women avoid financial dependence on husbands, state old-age homes liberate children from obligations to ageing parents, and so on. (Even marriage is a bit suspect: in France or Germany households are the basic unit of taxation, but in Sweden all adults file independently.) American parents sending their offspring to college must submit proof of their incomes for the youngsters to qualify for scholarships. In contrast, young Swedes are assumed to be on their own: the income of their parents is irrelevant. Their independence is a gift of the state, expensive as it is to sustain.

https://archive.ph/sl8io
#4
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by sub rosa - Today at 10:39 AM
Any-"thing."
Autonomous loyalty is all that's needed for the un-owned "thing" to not be abused by the masses. 
#5
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by prime - Today at 06:16 AM
The argument comes from the Tragedy of the Commons: anything un-owned is abused by the masses.

If the problem is idiots, then we all know that there is one solution... remove idiots. Boats!
#6
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by sub rosa - Aug 22, 2026, 10:40 PM
I think it is possible for humans to defend and help others they care about without "owning" them like an object with no autonomy and voice.

Statistically, the greatest danger women and children face comes from their very much self-interested  'owners,' not from vicious predators 'out there.'

And while "owning" someone can be a very sweet thing, metaphorically speaking, the masses of idiot "owners" do not understand metaphor and tend to abuse and control what they're told they're entitled to through the universal system of "ownership."

There's a dark side of possession (self-serving control without care) and a light/benevolent side (containment, as one experiences the well-being of the other as one's own).

There's also the problem when these living, talking, sentient 'objects' would prefer not to be "owned" at all, or would rather transfer the "ownership" to someone else. 

Children are granted emancipation soon enough. Women? ...

The problem with the Patriarchy as we know it is that it is too much like Feminism: it is egalitarian and universal.
It grants credits and absolute rights to idiots and non-idiots alike by virtue of sex only.
#7
tech / Re: Internet resources
Last post by prime - Aug 22, 2026, 08:55 PM
Quark Xpress/MSFT Publisher replacement
https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/
#8
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by prime - Aug 22, 2026, 08:19 PM
The point of a patriarchy is to protect women and children from a world that men know is viciously self-interested. Hippity-hoppity, women are property... because property gets defended, while letting people who are unable to fend for themselves loose on a world of predators is dooming them. Also true of serfs, children, and attic casement writers.
#9
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by sub rosa - Aug 22, 2026, 04:06 PM
You're starting to get the hang of it. They should also mandate a pot of fee-fees in each heart.
Problem is many of those "true patriarchies" don't deserve their patriarchal conditions.

Bone pot? ... Hm. The bones go in the soup. I'll refrain from further commentary on Bones and the Patriarchy. 
#10
action / Re: Cooking
Last post by prime - Aug 22, 2026, 03:28 PM
A true patriarchy might mandate a bone pot and a soup pot on each hearth.